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		<title>Comment on is there anything fishy going on with toyota and honda always on the top of consumer report list? by Ryan B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not really sure on that one. I own Consumer Reports' automotive issues dating back to 1987, and even then they consistently rated the Japanese automobiles higher than the American, European, and South Korean ones. We've owned both American and Japanese, and, with few exceptions, the Japanese ones do seem to hold together a little better and longer. Recently, though, in the past decade, three American cars have wrestled the top reliability surveys away from the Honda Accord, Subaru Legacy, and Toyota Camry. Until it was retired in 2004, the Buick Regal was the most reliable car sold in the United States. The next year, the Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan beat out the Japanese midsize cars for the top spot, so times could be changing.

However, I'm not entirely sure whether or not to trust Consumer Reports wholeheartedly either, as they have also shown blatant bias in their issues as well. For instance, in the 1995 issue, they refused to test or even report on pickup trucks because they considered them a waste of time and money. Around 1990, they also wouldn't test SUVs for the same reason. They limited themselves to cars and minivans (they still don't test fullsize vans). Apparently, they received enough angry letters from pickup owners or those looking for pickups, because the 1996 issue features small and midsize trucks, along with loud protests from Consumer Reports' staff about having to test them because they flatout hated them. They also refused to recommend a single pickup, giving them all poor ratings (even the Mazda, Nissan, and Toyota), despite some with excellent reliability and features. The reason - instead of grading the trucks on load capacity, off-road ability, power, towing capability, and other reasons people buy trucks, they rated them on ride, handling, performance, gas mileage, luxury, and interior space, which the trucks pretty much failed left and right.

Another example would be Consumer Reports' issues with rollovers. They wanted more rollover protection, so what did they do? They faked an issue citing rollover problems with several SUVs, most notably the Isuzu Trooper. They weighted the vehicle so it would tip up on two wheels, then took photos of it and called it unsafe. Isuzu sued, but the case was a draw. The Supreme Court declared that Consumer Reports had indeed faked evidence in favor of a rollover, but Isuzu wasn't entitled to reimbursement or face-saving thanks to the "Freedom of the Press" amendment. Subsequently, Isuzu lost several million dollars in sales of the Trooper and its' other SUVs, and went from being the number three SUV seller in the United States (behind Chevrolet and Ford), to now being absent from the American market just ten years later (Isuzu sold its' last models, the Ascender and I-Series, in 2007 and packed up to head back to Japan, though it still makes Duramax Diesel engines for Chevrolet and GMC).

Consumer Reports tried to do it again, with the Mitsubishi Montero, which sent that company reeling, but Mitsubishi's making a comeback with it's sporty compacts, the Eclipse and Lancer. Hopefully, Mitsubishi won't become an Isuzu repeat thanks to Consumer Reports' blatant bias against certain vehicles.

So, it's all up to you who you trust. Unfortunately, Consumer Reports is the only company to report extensively on reliability, whereas most car magazines just report on new models. The only other place you could try is JD Power and Associates, and see if they have done similar research.

I hope this has answered your question. If you have any more, please feel free to ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not really sure on that one. I own Consumer Reports&#8217; automotive issues dating back to 1987, and even then they consistently rated the Japanese automobiles higher than the American, European, and South Korean ones. We&#8217;ve owned both American and Japanese, and, with few exceptions, the Japanese ones do seem to hold together a little better and longer. Recently, though, in the past decade, three American cars have wrestled the top reliability surveys away from the Honda Accord, Subaru Legacy, and Toyota Camry. Until it was retired in 2004, the Buick Regal was the most reliable car sold in the United States. The next year, the Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan beat out the Japanese midsize cars for the top spot, so times could be changing.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m not entirely sure whether or not to trust Consumer Reports wholeheartedly either, as they have also shown blatant bias in their issues as well. For instance, in the 1995 issue, they refused to test or even report on pickup trucks because they considered them a waste of time and money. Around 1990, they also wouldn&#8217;t test SUVs for the same reason. They limited themselves to cars and minivans (they still don&#8217;t test fullsize vans). Apparently, they received enough angry letters from pickup owners or those looking for pickups, because the 1996 issue features small and midsize trucks, along with loud protests from Consumer Reports&#8217; staff about having to test them because they flatout hated them. They also refused to recommend a single pickup, giving them all poor ratings (even the Mazda, Nissan, and Toyota), despite some with excellent reliability and features. The reason - instead of grading the trucks on load capacity, off-road ability, power, towing capability, and other reasons people buy trucks, they rated them on ride, handling, performance, gas mileage, luxury, and interior space, which the trucks pretty much failed left and right.</p>
<p>Another example would be Consumer Reports&#8217; issues with rollovers. They wanted more rollover protection, so what did they do? They faked an issue citing rollover problems with several SUVs, most notably the Isuzu Trooper. They weighted the vehicle so it would tip up on two wheels, then took photos of it and called it unsafe. Isuzu sued, but the case was a draw. The Supreme Court declared that Consumer Reports had indeed faked evidence in favor of a rollover, but Isuzu wasn&#8217;t entitled to reimbursement or face-saving thanks to the &#8220;Freedom of the Press&#8221; amendment. Subsequently, Isuzu lost several million dollars in sales of the Trooper and its&#8217; other SUVs, and went from being the number three SUV seller in the United States (behind Chevrolet and Ford), to now being absent from the American market just ten years later (Isuzu sold its&#8217; last models, the Ascender and I-Series, in 2007 and packed up to head back to Japan, though it still makes Duramax Diesel engines for Chevrolet and GMC).</p>
<p>Consumer Reports tried to do it again, with the Mitsubishi Montero, which sent that company reeling, but Mitsubishi&#8217;s making a comeback with it&#8217;s sporty compacts, the Eclipse and Lancer. Hopefully, Mitsubishi won&#8217;t become an Isuzu repeat thanks to Consumer Reports&#8217; blatant bias against certain vehicles.</p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s all up to you who you trust. Unfortunately, Consumer Reports is the only company to report extensively on reliability, whereas most car magazines just report on new models. The only other place you could try is JD Power and Associates, and see if they have done similar research.</p>
<p>I hope this has answered your question. If you have any more, please feel free to ask.</p>
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		<title>Comment on is there anything fishy going on with toyota and honda always on the top of consumer report list? by alfredb1979</title>
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		<dc:creator>alfredb1979</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It tells you how bad the big 3 had bee since the 1970s.

The fact that people bought their cars for that period of time did not make them produce better vehicles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It tells you how bad the big 3 had bee since the 1970s.</p>
<p>The fact that people bought their cars for that period of time did not make them produce better vehicles.</p>
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		<title>Comment on is there anything fishy going on with toyota and honda always on the top of consumer report list? by Firebird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Firebird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be some politics, mixed with reality.  Consumer reports is published by the "consumer's union" which is highly politically motivated.  They hate all corporations, and anybody who produces any kind of material wealth.  There's no reason they'd hate a foreign corporation any less, but I think when you hate something, the closer it is to you, the less comfortable you are.

I have seen many nutty things in their ratings over the years, but at the same time many things that made perfect sense.  So I think i'ts a mix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be some politics, mixed with reality.  Consumer reports is published by the &#8220;consumer&#8217;s union&#8221; which is highly politically motivated.  They hate all corporations, and anybody who produces any kind of material wealth.  There&#8217;s no reason they&#8217;d hate a foreign corporation any less, but I think when you hate something, the closer it is to you, the less comfortable you are.</p>
<p>I have seen many nutty things in their ratings over the years, but at the same time many things that made perfect sense.  So I think i&#8217;ts a mix.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How do I find A consumer report for A HONDA 93 XR650L? by atvman_400</title>
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		<dc:creator>atvman_400</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the reliabilty outlook for this bike: Excellent. A good choice for a dual sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the reliabilty outlook for this bike: Excellent. A good choice for a dual sport.</p>
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		<title>Comment on When a job application says they conduct a consumer report? by ondreforsure</title>
		<link>http://www.consumerreportsdot.com/when-a-job-application-says-they-conduct-a-consumer-report/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>ondreforsure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a snap shop of the credit and also a backround check.  Criminal history exc...  I hope you pass!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a snap shop of the credit and also a backround check.  Criminal history exc&#8230;  I hope you pass!  <img src='http://www.consumerreportsdot.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on How do I find A consumer report for A HONDA 93 XR650L? by taffscott1</title>
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		<dc:creator>taffscott1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try epinions.com</description>
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		<title>Comment on Which nationwide consumer credit reporting company should I get my free report from? by Leo C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US Government has mandated that the three major credit bureaus offer the service to everyone in the United States once each year. The name of this site is. 

Since it is government mandated it requires a whole host of hoops to jump through. You do not actually get your credit scores, and it can take 7-10 days to receive the information. All in all not very consumer friendly. Guess that is what happens when a big company is required to do something they do not want to do.

Here is how I got my Credit Report and Score from all 3 bureaus for free.

I went to and signed up for their service.

It took like 3 minutes! They give you 7 Days for Free to try the service.

So I just canceled the next day after printing out everything I needed. 

Easy and Free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US Government has mandated that the three major credit bureaus offer the service to everyone in the United States once each year. The name of this site is. </p>
<p>Since it is government mandated it requires a whole host of hoops to jump through. You do not actually get your credit scores, and it can take 7-10 days to receive the information. All in all not very consumer friendly. Guess that is what happens when a big company is required to do something they do not want to do.</p>
<p>Here is how I got my Credit Report and Score from all 3 bureaus for free.</p>
<p>I went to and signed up for their service.</p>
<p>It took like 3 minutes! They give you 7 Days for Free to try the service.</p>
<p>So I just canceled the next day after printing out everything I needed. </p>
<p>Easy and Free.</p>
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		<title>Comment on How do I find A consumer report for A HONDA 93 XR650L? by eman</title>
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		<dc:creator>eman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 05:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dont know but you dont need one take it from me its a very reliable bike great choice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dont know but you dont need one take it from me its a very reliable bike great choice</p>
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		<title>Comment on When a job application says they conduct a consumer report? by PopsGifts</title>
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		<dc:creator>PopsGifts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A consumer report sounds a bit better, doesn't it..?

 A simple credit background will be pulled from their choice of the Big 3 agencies, likely Equifax.

 Disclosure law may require them to supply you with a copy of the report, depending on your state of residence.

 Many companies use a search-service that provides any public-record info available, such as court-criminal history, traffic offenses, and the Sex Offender registry of your state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A consumer report sounds a bit better, doesn&#8217;t it..?</p>
<p> A simple credit background will be pulled from their choice of the Big 3 agencies, likely Equifax.</p>
<p> Disclosure law may require them to supply you with a copy of the report, depending on your state of residence.</p>
<p> Many companies use a search-service that provides any public-record info available, such as court-criminal history, traffic offenses, and the Sex Offender registry of your state.</p>
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		<title>Comment on is there anything fishy going on with toyota and honda always on the top of consumer report list? by Peter H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't see how. I've participated in Consumer Reports, JD Power, and other car owner surveys myself for years and other than them sending you a dollar bill to incent you to take the survey, there is no reason for anyone to rate any car brand better than any other. They ask very direct questions about problems you have had, the type of problems, and if you would buy the same car again in the future.

I've also owned Honda and Toyota vehicles and have considered them to be more reliable and better quality than other brands, particularly American brands, that I have owned. It is no surprise to me that these two brands are always on top. Have you ever owned a Honda or Toyota?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how. I&#8217;ve participated in Consumer Reports, JD Power, and other car owner surveys myself for years and other than them sending you a dollar bill to incent you to take the survey, there is no reason for anyone to rate any car brand better than any other. They ask very direct questions about problems you have had, the type of problems, and if you would buy the same car again in the future.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also owned Honda and Toyota vehicles and have considered them to be more reliable and better quality than other brands, particularly American brands, that I have owned. It is no surprise to me that these two brands are always on top. Have you ever owned a Honda or Toyota?</p>
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